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Slugger (no replies)

hswaim — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:38 -0800

Well, I have allowed myself to get into a little bit of a sticky situation. I have a guy friend that I have been hanging out with. He also is a bartender, and my friends and I go to his place of work on Wed. and Sat. to sing karaoke and hang out. When I met Mike it was right after Jeff's death and he and I just started out being friends, this was back in August. He had warned me that he sort of had a stalker named Sarah, and I just blew it off. The FIRST incounter with Sarah was bizarre, it was a Sunday I think and the bar was empty but Sarah, Mike (who was working), myself, and another friend. I was having a conversation with the other friend when I hear Sarah say..."I don't care, I don't like her and she is fat." I ignored the remarks and kept talking to my friend. After a few more words, Mike asked her to leave. In the three months since I have been in the same bar with Sarah numerous times and have just ignored her. However, she has been trash talking me all along, her favorite name for me is the Bitch. Last week while standing at the jukebox with my girlfriend, Sarah, who was at the table next to the jukebox began to run her mouth. After a few words a little scuffle ensued and Sarah ended up falling off her barstool onto the floor. Of course she was intoxicated, but while on the floor I hit her in the eye. I am not the type of person who does that type of thing, but I guess after three months, and a much longer story than what I am giving, I did sink to her level and hit her. NOBODY saw me hit her, it happened so fast and the position that we were in, nobody saw it. She called the cops. I left the bar. I was interviewed at another location and was not charged with battery. Sarah is now trying to get a restraining order on me. The judge decided that he wanted to hear my side of the story. I have not been served the papers yet. I never owned up to hitting Sarah at anytime, and have witnesses that she pushed me first, and was the one who instigated the argument. Sarah has 2 DUI convictions, possession of weed, possession of narcotic paraphanelia, and a battery charge against her. She has been barred from this certain bar previously for fighting, and is always intoxicated. I also have people who are willing to give statements about the derogatory statements she has made about me over the past couple of months also.

I have never been in trouble in my life and don't know what I should do in this type of situation. I guess maybe I just needed to talk about it too.

Thanks for listening!!!
Heather

Lavender Oil (no replies)

Woolmer — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:21:24 -0800

Lavender Oil an essential oil, it contains essence of the lavender plant. Lavender pure essential oil is cultivated and harvested in the Mediterranean today. More specifically, lavender is grown in Provence, France. Lavender is the most popular essential oil in aromatherapy; this is probably due to the fact that it is the most versatile of all essential oils as it can be used for a large variety of ailments ranging from insect repellent to sedative. Lavender’s balancing effect calms uncontrolled emotions, removes indecisiveness and emotional conflict, and helps to bring the feelings under conscious control. It brings a sense of rationality to the conscious mind. Its effect is antibacterial, pain-relieving, healing for wounds, soothing for skin diseases, deodorizing, antiseptic, fungicidal, insect-repelling, rejuvenating, and anti-inflammatory.

Weight loss help Fibro Pain? (no replies)

blandinevisha — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:50:39 -0800

Has anyone had a decrease in Fibro pain from intentional weight loss? I know you are advised to keep your weight down to relieve osteoarthritis pain, so I'm doing low-carb for that, but I was wondering if losing weight might help relieve some of the pain of Fibro.

need to get justice (no replies)

angrymom — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:57:25 -0800

My daughters were molested by my sisters boy friend for years
we took it to court and it was a mis trial because the inditment was worded wrong! it did not say he did it for sexual gradifation.....spell wrong....sorry
any way now its just as painful as if it happened yesterday.
I was hopping someone might know how i can go about suing the boy friend.
all we want is to clear are names because now we are made out to be the liers.
and he is made out to be the victom and has acsess to young girls again.
please help he needs to be stopped.
if anyone can hel;p me please write me a email
thankyou
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weight loss help (no replies)

rickystim5 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:35:46 -0800

it's a new year, and i need to lose weight!!!, 1st a little about myself. I am a 16 years old guy and i weigh around 285 lbs. I've been overweight since 2nd grade. in 7th and 8th grade i played football, for my school, i was good. in high school i tried out for the team and made it, but i couldn't keep up with all the "fit" players, so i quit. I've tried diets, but i can't seem to stick to them. this year i have made a proposition to lose 100 lbs, but i need to be at least fit for this summer, because i am trying out for the team again. the only problem is that most of my fat is in my thighs, and some in my stomach, so please if anyone has any diets, exercise tips, or whole diet and exercise plans
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Fear of more (1 reply)

Fara — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:03:17 -0800

I lost my dad coming on 3 years ago in December due to diabetes/alcoholism/Avandia trials. I still have dreams about him a couple of times a week, have nearly wrecked my life with the rut I'm in, etc. But my problem that has me stuck stone cold in my tracks and even regressing in mental health is my fear of losing my mom. I tear up immediately with the brief mention or thought of it. I'm so afraid of the future event that I have absolutely no present. I don't know what to do. I'm 34, talk on the phone to her everyday, sometimes multiple times. We are best friends and I love that but I'm even seriously considering leaving my life here and moving back to be able to see her everyday. I'm so obsessed with losing her that I know I have become mentally ill. I am asking for any ideas on how to get past this and on with a healthy life and friendship/relationship with her and gain my present back. If you have any words, no matter how small they may seem, please let me know.

Thank you,
Fara

Happy Veteran's Day Gregg (no replies)

Annette — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:17:07 -0800

Gregg,

Just wanted to say Happy Veteran's Day. You know I have nothing but respect for our vets and active duty soldiers. You have my gratitude and I could not let the day go by without saying so.

I live in a tiny tiny town but they had a ceremony this morning for the vets - it was very nice and I saw a lot of young people there. Made me feel good to see that.

Annette

Horrible Back Pain, Muscles Tightening In Back When I Wakeup (no replies)

Mariyameggy — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:26:16 -0800

For the last 3 weeks or so, every once in a while, I have been having horrible back pain when I wake up. It doesnt happen every morning, but about every 2-3 days. The pain doesnt wake me up, but when I wake up, it feels like all the muscles in my back are tightened. The pain forces me to get out of bed and stand up for about 10 minutes. Sometimes its in my upper back, sometimes its in my middle back. Also, recently I have had some ever so slight tingling in the front and left side of my lower left leg , and in my left foot when I sit down. I dont keep a wallet in my pocket, so I know that isnt causing any problems. Any one have any suggestions as to what my be causing this? I dont know if I should just go see my general practitioner, or go to a chiropractor. I had someone crack my back about two weeks ago, and I felt so much relief, I cant explain it. Any recommendations?

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Sexual Development In Toddler? (no replies)

BowlbyC — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:58:07 -0800

I have a 3 year old girl. I have noticed that she will touch herself "down there" recently. I have a friend of mine watch her while my husband and i work and today I was told that my daughter spread her legs and told another girl the same age to "touch my body". She has no other signs of abuse such as withdrawl or over clinging to anyone. could this just be curiosity and exploration?

Why Me,Lord,Why Me (no replies)

daveyjones12 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:40:29 -0800

A perfectly knitted family for over 40 years,torn apart by a daughter who accuse her Father on molesting her 4 years old daughter.

Never arrested but investigated by Dept of Children & Family (Florida) who find nothing and close their case. All this happened May 2009 and daughter and now son not speaking to the Father but other daughter is furious and says "Dad would never do something like that".

Lawyers say they cant help since no arrest occured. Now what?

Sensuality and Intimacy with Age (no replies)

Gregg — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:53:01 -0700

Does it click better with age? I'm one of those pessimists when comparing intimacy or sex in old age with younger days. But..I think those ciallis type commericials with two old codgers in the bathtube overlooking the green valley as the sun goes down, is rubbish for the most part. You take two people who've been married for 40 or 50 years together, and the fire goes out. It becomes a partnership with no sparks.

The sillier version is watching old people acting young. Be your age! You can do it behind closed doors just as good in old age. Just remember your limits! Lol.

The good news about aging, from this mans perspective, we appreciate it more than when we were fit and firm. The small delicacies matter and we savor them, like a woman's feet. It's not about drilling anymore, but just filling with sweet cream puddin. Shortly after getting married, a rude man told me, "you can't wear it out." As crude as that was, and it kinda made me mad, yeah, you can't. But..on us mens side of the fence, sticking it out in old age, becomes a problem.

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Helpful therapy (no replies)

Wiggi — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:50:22 -0700

Hi there,

Some time ago I had therapy for a few personal issues and found it beneficial. The most helpful thing my therapist did was understand me. I am now so fascinated by this subject that I have created a short survey on it (which has got NHS ethical approval in the UK). Please take a look.

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Thanks

Wiggi

What is going on with this? I am so confused and distraught. (2 replies)

silly4you — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:46:26 -0700

My BF of 7 months (have known each other since high school and went out a year as friends before we dated) has told me that something feels like it is missing between us. We have talked about it and he cannot answer what it is. He looks me straight in the eyes and tells me he loves me and it is not a sister/friend love, attraction is there, not bored, chemistry is there. He said he started feeling it when his granddad passed away a couple of weeks ago (he has also lost his dad and a brother early in life). He does have ALOT of stress in his life (has MS, making time with his daughter, a mom holds a house over his head, ex wife with a house still in his name, granddad passing away, complete shoulder replacement, turning 40).

He hasn't changed his actions (maybe backed off a little) but still calls & texts, tells me and my girls he loves us, makes plans for all of us (with his daughter too), kisses me when he first sees me and when he leaves, holds my hand at home when we are out and and in the truck, comes over almost every night or at least see each other 5-6 days a week, wants me to go places with him, calls me princess and sends me I Love You texts.

He says that it is just some things he has to work out with himself that it isn't anything with me. He said he wants to give this his 100% try and doesn't want to give up on us, doesn't want to lose me, go back to friends or call it quits.

On the other hand, I did a bad thing and looked at some of his email. He wrote a note to his mom asking for money to buy a boat , she is already holding the house over his head (free and clear house if you only take me time and no moving in or out for 5 years ). He went on to say that she didn't have to worry about him marrying me because that was what I wanted and that I wasn't the right person for him. It also said that I didn't understand his need for alone time with his daughter or when he is just to tired, ill or busy to come over and that I try to hard at times. He did tell her that I was awesome and would continue to see me until the new year and the see where we are. The emails to her were before we had our talks, we have had 2.

We have a Vegas trip in November and Disney in December. He even took me with him to help pick out the new boat that he is purchasing. We went to church together for the first time today. We do things as a family (his daughter and mine) and present ourselves that way (festivals, even my daughter's open house).

I am so confused and distraught I don't know what to do. Am I being played? His mom? What do I do? If he was planning on leaving me, why start going to church and continue to make plans? FYI, he already purchased a ring for me 2 months into our relationship (but never asked me), can his mind change that quickly?

BTW, I have been a widowed mom for almost 8 years and this is my first relationship since.

no man is an island (2 replies)

ERIC G.K. — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:14:00 -0800

Hello.
I have recently signed up on this web site because I need help with a mental problem and I do not have access to professional help or medication.
I was diagnosed as manic depressive about 30 years ago, I'm now 66. and at the start I was able to get the treatment I required but since about 6 years ago those options were no longer available to me. The psychiatrist treating me died and because of the situation in the country where I live, Zimbabwe, Africa, I have not been able to get another suitable therapist, and therefore I cannot access the medication I need. On top of that I am an alcoholic of long standing but
have been able to get into remission from that and have been sober for some years now, but I think that I may be heading for trouble.
At the moment I am in a manic state and it seems to be getting worse and lasting longer than before, It sounds ridiculous, even to me, that I am afraid of feeling so good, but I am beginning to lose control over my emotions. When I'm on my own , watching a movie for instance, I feel very tearful and want to cry for no reason. This is triggered when I see nice people doing nice things for others., or a puppy licking a childs face, like they do. I'm afraid it's getting out of hand.
I'm a grown man, supposed to be all 'macho' and I want to cry. I know that the sensible thing do do is not watch movies. but I live alone with no friends or family to talk to and I get some sort of companionship from the people in the movies. Sounds bizarre. and it is and I do not want it like this andt therefore, after reading the posts of LOSTANDHOPEFUL and ANNETTE on this site I decided that I should ask if anyone has some advise for me

Medication change (no replies)

Annette — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:53:53 -0700

Still fighting my own depression - I take medication and also go to therapy but still was having trouble so my psychiatrist reccommended "piggy backing" another medication with the one that did the best for me. I was on Zoloft for several years and it started to not work so well and I asked my doctor at the time about changing to one ofthe newer meds and I have been on a roller coaster since then. Right now I take 30 mg of Cymbalta daily. My doctor added 20 more mg a few weeks ago and the anxiety overwhelmed me so I am still on the 30 daily but have stopped the additinal 20mg. She and my psychiatrist talked and she is now wanting to wean me off the Cymbalta and go back on Zoloft with a piggy back of Wellbutrin. Anyone have any experience with this?

On-line relationships (3 replies)

ERIC G.K. — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:49:25 -0700

Hi there eveybody.
I live in a country in Africa which at the moment is going through a terrible time, with a breakdown of our court system and the absence of law and order., most of the trouble caused by sheer corruption, from the top to the bottom. I also know that the problems of Africa are starting to bore most people in the West because it seems that there is never an end to it .But that is what evolution is all about. Africa appears to me to be about five hundred years behind in the development of civilization, and because one cannot stop evolution in one part of the world so that the other may catch up.Make no error, there are now many
Africans with the qualities which are required for us to go forward, but unfortunately not near enough.
The above is just to give you an idea of the prevailing circumstances in which I live. I, because of my minority status ,am finding it very difficult to have any friends. I do not have any family and where I live I am the only one of my race who remains in my area. Of course I have work mates but we do notshare the same mind set, and discusssing anything other than work related sujects, is just like talking to an answering machine and asking for an opinion frpm it. I wish my dogs could talk english because I'm sure I could get a mouthful from them.
So, I am living in a bit of a vacuum and it's driving me nuts and when I came across SHM I got quite excited, I know that it is not possible to exchange email adresses on this site but I'm wondering if it is possible to organise some form of direct communication though this site. The popular sites for this I think are ones such as Face Book and others which are similar, but I would not be comfortable with those. This place is crawling with gooks and spooks. I hope that I may find someone with whom I can natter and chatter. It does not matter who, as long as its in english, without too much of an accent.

I'm being verbally bullied at work (1 reply)

PurpleLilacs — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:47:09 -0700

Hello---
I'm new to this site and this is my first post.

This is very embarrassing to admit but, eventhough I'm almost 60, I'm being bullied verbally at work by another staff member.
I was physically, verbally, sexually bullied for years while growing up by my father and other adults and school kids. I guess I've never really gotten over it or learned how to deal with it.

For some reason I can't just ignore what this B**** says to me. She seems to know exactly how to get to me, although I try not to show it or retaliate. I try to take the high road and act as though I don't notice. She yells and criticizes me in front of other staff although my supervisor has no complaints about my work. But the staffs supervisor and mine are 2 different people so they have no idea what my supervisor thinks of my work.

It's a work environment so it's not the place to shout at her (it wouldn't work anyhow because I'm terrible at confrontations. My mind goes blank).
Also she's been there over 20 years (I've been there only 4 years).
They know she's like this (other people in my position have already quit because of her) but since she's reliable they leave her alone or, at the most, they've moved her to a different locations. Also this is a low paying position and they always have extreme trouble hiring new people because of it. They'd rather just keep the staff they already have.

My blood pressure has jumped 30 points on days I've had to deal with her. (I'm already on medication for blood pressure and anxiety.)
I've gotten to where I hate going to work.
I know the simple answer is to quit and get a new job, but at my age and where I live it'd be almost impossible.

I need to know how to deal with her.
I can't believe I'm this old and still "a mark".
I've been to counseling but they didn't help.
This must be one of those things that you need to experience in order to give advice.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
Have you been in this situation?

Few questions (no replies)

devid.mike — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:50:49 -0700

I had panic attacks in the past, in 2001 I was put on Paxil 20 mg and that pretty well took care of that issue. It wasn't until recently, when I was sexually assaulted, that Paxil started to fail and I began feeling anxious and suicidal. At that point, I wasn't having panic attacks again. The doctor took me off Paxil right away and switched me to Effexor XR at the time.. which I took for a few weeks but it didn't seem to do anything.. so the doctor took me off of it cold turkey (that was fun) and gave me Ativan to help me through any anxiety that I experienced.

After I got through the Effexor withdrawal, the Ativan worked very well.. usually instantly. As the months have gone on, Ativan has begun to work less and less which brings me to where I am now.

I am having full fledged panic attacks again. The hot sweats, tingling in my arms, heart palps and the feeling like I'm going to pass out. I went back to the doctor and he once again put me on Effexor XR 75 mg. It has just been over three weeks since I was put on it and it really hasn't done anything at all, plus with my ativan nothing providing any relief I feel completely exasperated. I recently was laid off from work (not because of my condition, but low work) and would like to get my head sorted out before starting a new job.

I'm just looking for some advice, personal experience with Effexor XR... and other options other than Ativan.. I've heard of Xanax.. it's like ativan correct?

Those that are on Effexor or have been, once it's 'fully' in your system, does it work?

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A newbie question: Who are the moderators here? (2 replies)

Moe — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:26:55 -0700

The forums I have participated in had moderators or MODs for short. Are there any here and who are they?

Natural Remedies (1 reply)

jameshudson45 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:06:11 -0700

Hi everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck with natural remedies? I was using Bach Flower Remedy, but it's a pretty quick helper at reducing immediate anxiety, but doesn't last very long?

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Health Tips (1 reply)

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How To Stop A Panic Attack

Stop panic attacks without meds (no replies)

ston5 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:44:25 -0700

Most people think that to overcome panic and phobias, you are supposed
to 'face your fears' Well that's a load of crap. The reason you feel
panic is that a young part of you is terrified and doesn't trust the
older parts of you to look after it. Forcing that young part to do
something it clearly doesn't want to do will make the panic worse.

Try this: Next time you panic, remove yourself from whatever it is
that's causing it. I panic on buses and trains, I don't force myself
to take trains, if I take a bus, I say to that part, "If you want to
get off, we will get off". When I go to the cinema/theatre, I pre-book
an aisle seat, I find out where the exit is and I say to myself "If
you want to leave, we'll leave" I have been doing this for several
years now and it really works. I can sit in waiting rooms now,
something I could never do before, because that young part of me knows
that if it wants to get up and go, we will, without hesitation. It has
learned to trust me. In turn, I can reason with it sometimes when I
really want to stay and I can be really kind to it and even ask it to
try and be OK (this mostly works, but I still have work to do on
this). I never take medication for panic, I think that this is really
disrespectful to the parts of you that are trying to communicate, you
just have to listen to them and eventually they will be less
terrified, learn to trust you and panic attacks do get much less. I
know that one day, I wont need to have them at all any more.

Good Luck!
Treatment Of Panic Attacks

Old and New Testament (5 replies)

Gregg — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:17:45 -0700

There's this notion within the Christian World that with the arrival of the New Testament, not much need in reading the Old. I myself became immersed in the New more than the Old. We shouldn't do that of course. The New is like an ammendment to the Constitution over riding the Old. The New is our Free pass out of the world of sin and the Commandments we couldn't abide by in the Old with God's Word and rules.

It's very important to understand where you've been so to move forward with that understanding. The Old T is about the Beginning where God gives not only his Commandments, but stories which explain the need for those Rules. So often I've read where people living outside God's plan, take stories out of context to support their sins. God is giving you an example of how Not to do it, and Not an example for you to follow to your demise.

How do I not take things for granted? (8 replies)

Moe — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:46:23 -0700

How do I not take things that are with me or around me daily, for granted?

ABUSED AT AGE 10 (no replies)

redswallow — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:44:11 -0700

HI
I HAVE NEVER TOLD ANYBODY WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME, BUT MY BROTHERS FRIENDS STARTED ABUSING ME AT THE AGE OF TEN, THEY WERE 16 AND OLDER, MY BROTHER ALSO USED TO GET ME TO TOUCH HIM, I REMEMBER BEING ASKED IF I HAD STARTED MY PERIOD, WHEN I SAID NO THEY SAID THATS OK YOU CANT GET PREGNANT THEN. I BLAMED MYSELF BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS WRONG BUT SOMEHOW THEY MADE IT SEEM OK, ITS JUST THAT NOW I HAVE A TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND WHEN I LOOK AT HER I REALISE SHE IS JUST A CHILD AND INNOCENT, IT MAKES ME ANGRY AND UPSET THAT THEY TOOK AWAY MY CHILDHOOD. I FEEL I NEED COUNCILING BUT IM SUCH A PRIVATE PERSON IM NOT SURE IF I CAN GO THROUGH WITH IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS EATING AWAY AT ME. IM A HAPPY PERSON MOST OF THE TIME BUT JUST LATELY THE MEMORIES SEEM TO BE COMING BACK.

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Afghan War (7 replies)

Gregg — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:02:58 -0800

Now we come to this. How did we get here from the beginning in 01? Remember how easy it was back then? 8 years of war and now things seem to be heating up. This is only an Opinion from my brilliant mind.

There were War Lords back in 01 who fought with and for us who now fight against us. The mood and air in Afghanastan has changed dramatically. O's General wants many more troops to stem the tide and say it's dire and urgent to send them.

Some of the answers are rather simple and you only have to study history. Let's begin by studying the Vietnam War which has become the poster war for studying both Iraq and Afghanastan despite major differences in culture, landscape, allies on both sides, and most importantly the people.

Soldiering and war technology has become more professional, let's say, than more than 40 years ago. Makes no difference overall, why? The enemy is using the same strategy used by Ho and same weaponry. We've Overstayed our Welcome. It is almost impossible to occupy a foreign land without total support of the people of that land. The longer one stays, the more enemies abound. Eventually they do not like you, like they once did. Many reasons for this but you start with clashing cultures and religious beliefs.

Should O send more troops into the fray? Toughie.
You send them like Johnson did, and you run the risk of more casualties and deepening war, which may end for the worse. O doesn't send them, and the Taliban takes over with new T camps and it lands on the Prez's desk in history as a blunder.
The Quagmire is being established.